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I found this ebay auction and wanted to ask if this is a real "black francie" - first generation.


Can you help me? Title: Mattel-Barbie-1966-U-S-Patented-JAPAN-Dunkelhautig

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mattel-Barbie-1966-U-S-Patented-JAPAN-Dunkelhautig-VINTAGE-/280983339753?pt=DE_allesf%C3%BCrsKind_spielzeug_puppen&hash=item416be982e9

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  • Admin

    I'm loving this thread and how helpful our wonderful members have been. Well done folks! 

    Also a facinating journey to work out the authenticity of this wonderful doll! 

  • That's definitely a black Francie with the patent on back and not the repro.they go from 500-2000 depending on the condition and if it's boxed or not..higlhy collectable.the first AA Barbie and it was only produced for 1 year.

  • That would be really nice.

    Ada Bogoevici said:

    Would you like me to ask them about this doll?

    Andrea Haas said:

    Thanks for the information Ada, but unfortunately I don't have (and don't want) facebook ;)

    Maybe I'll ask a friend who has an account.. or someone of you could ask for me *grin*

  • Would you like me to ask them about this doll?

    Andrea Haas said:

    Thanks for the information Ada, but unfortunately I don't have (and don't want) facebook ;)

    Maybe I'll ask a friend who has an account.. or someone of you could ask for me *grin*

  • Groups Admin

    Dearest Dolly-Sister Andrea...if you have trouble finding someone trust-worthy online (you know, that won't try to snipe your beauty away from you @ Auction end...or is that just me and my paranoia? ) I seem to remember several extensive articles regarding the differences between the true vintage Francie's and the reproduction Francie's in my old Barbie Bazaar magazines.  Let me dig around tonight and if I can find the one I'm thinking of, I can scan pix for you!  

  • Thanks for the information Ada, but unfortunately I don't have (and don't want) facebook ;)

    Maybe I'll ask a friend who has an account.. or someone of you could ask for me *grin*

  • The guys from this group can help you with more info: http://www.facebook.com/groups/47878358426/

  • Yeah this eyes are really a masterpiece. 

    Does someone have an idea of the average pricing of this beauty? Approx. 1000-1500$?
    Man I wish I could pay such a price right now.

    But if it stays the steal it is right now...


    Edit: I just saw the original swimsuit is being sold in a separate auction.

  • Oh, so there is a repro black Francie too. I didn't know that. That's good that Deb has her and can tell you that the doll in the auction looks different. Also I think the hair would be different if it were a repro doll.

  • Groups Admin

    She certainly looks like the real deal, doesn't she?  Very different from my AA Repro Francie.

    Wow, her eyes!! 

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